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The Consultation Letters of Dr William Cullen (1710-1790) at the Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh

 

[ID:909] From: Anonymous / To: Dr William Cullen (Professor Cullen) / Regarding: Anonymous (Patient) / 14 August 1774 / (Incoming)

Letter from an unnamed correspondent in St Petersburg. Incomplete. Part is addressed to Cullen, and part to a friend.

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DOC ID 909
RCPE Catalogue Number CUL/1/2/172
Main Language English
Document Direction Incoming
Date14 August 1774
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Recipe No
Regimen No
Letter of Introduction No
Case Note No
Summary Letter from an unnamed correspondent in St Petersburg. Incomplete. Part is addressed to Cullen, and part to a friend.
Manuscript Incomplete? Yes
Evidence of Commercial Posting No

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[Case ID:452]
Case of an unnamed patient in St Petersburg with a venereal complaint.
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[PERS ID:1297]Author
[PERS ID:1]AddresseeDr William Cullen (Professor Cullen)
[PERS ID:1297]Patient
[PERS ID:1]Patient's Physician / Surgeon / ApothecaryDr William Cullen (Professor Cullen)
[PERS ID:1298]Patient's Relative / Spouse / Friend John Lindsay
[PERS ID:1299]OtherMr Spence
[PERS ID:2979]OtherDr William Buchan
[PERS ID:1298]Supplemental Addressee John Lindsay

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[Page 1]
Dear Sir
Petersburg 14 August


I recieved your letter of the 2d April, which as
every thing you ever said or wrote me did, gave me much
satisfaction, -- I am a little afraid tho from your not being
quite so full & decisive as I coud have wished, that in my
last letters I have been rather inpertinent & indiscreet - in
troubling ↑you↑ with circumstances that may be deemed indelicate
& invidious, & on the whole that you woud rather wish to
discourage so ↑in↑discreet a correspondent while at such a
distance - Yet at the same time I cannot help thinking
your humanity will forgive the man however you may blame
his manner, when you consider the state I was in when I
wrote both last times, and that any Patient is circum¬
stanced as I am to Dr Cullen must in any extremity look
up to him with uncommon confidence, & write to him on
his case more fully & with less reserve than to any other
man on earth -- But I will not trouble you any farther
with my conjectures - & impute the whole I woud seem to
complain of to my own pecularities - & the vast distance be¬



[Page 2]

tween us which makes a correspondence on such cases very trouble¬
some --- And I begg leave now to trouble you with a short ac¬
count of my present situation - and which may be very fully
supplyed by my good friend & Partner Mr John Lindsay
who will deliver you this -- He performed all the good of¬
fices of a friend to me when in ↑my↑ worst state, & was present &
assisting of all the Operations


My Rheumatick Complaints are all gone long ago, tho
I am well aware the disposition remains, I think I know well
how to gaurd against its return -- As to Veneral Complaints
the running still continues, tho I think & believe as you woud
have me that the infection is long ago gone - I believe
also had I staid at home last summer after I got over my
other complaints, avoided exercise & followed the mild
temperate regimen you prescribe I must long ere now been
fully restored - but unhappily in the then very disordered
& relaxed state of the urethra I undertook as I wrote you
a journey of 200 miles from home to bath in warm



[Page 3]

water which I had no occasion ↑for↑, & if I had coud have
been procured at home - where I got exposed to every
accident of weather & had accomodation - here I caught
the Rheumatism again - & here I was ply'd with Cinnabar
& other mercurial preparations - which only served to
make me worse - and after I got home - what more
mercury purges & infections I suffered - have ↑been↑ already
told - such fatality never attended poor Devil
It had been surely better my business had been finish'd
at first ~ But to return the running is rather
less that when I wrote you - tho the colour varies a
little now and then as you said it woud - I also
have still have so much of the sensation of a
Chordee (or stricture, are they the same?) as satisfies
me the urethra is not entirely restored - I remem¬
ber when you took me in hand at home the running
had then continued 12 months but without any Chordee
after the first three weeks - And the running gave
way to the regimen you laid me under & 3 months


[Page 4]

interdiction from {illeg} - this now tho seems of a much
severer obstinate kind - your state of my case is very accurate
& agreeable with my feelings, at present however I cannot
think the neck of the bladder affected, whatever it was
at my worst last winter, nor tho I had them then do I think
I have any troublesome strangureous sympon - just now
I believe I have rather a more frequent stimulus to make
a water
than if all we were well, & get free from that in¬
continency
I had {illeg} in the winter which was so great
after I began to get a little better of the strangureous
symptoms, that I used scarcely to have time to un¬
button - this now tho is not the case for I may have
perhaps more stimuli and a few other indiscribable sen¬
sations different from a sound state, I think I have the
urine at sufficient command so as that it is not ↑in that respect↑ trouble¬
some, -- a laxity tho & occasionall swelling of the urethra
with a very small degree of chordee still I think remains
For this as you direct I have left off drinking altogether


[Page 5]

except where the water is bad I mix a little wine - I
eat milk & Tea to breakfast & supper & dine tem¬
perately as fresh meats - and drink plentifully of water
or what is mild. If this practice will do I can easily
follow it up for any length of time - and as to Ve¬
nery if that was altogether necessary to abstain from
I coud do that also - for I can submit to any thing you
will positively direct - However once a week on a
average is my present allowance - I make water
tollerably well, tho there always seems yet as if some
was left in Urethra, which requires stroking out
let me make water ever so deliberately - there seems
but little heat to remain - & the stream joins
oftener than before - On the whole I am in such a
state I know not whether from what you wrote last
I shoud use the Bougies or not - If I coud do well
without to be sure I woud much rather - In there
has been too much freedom used with my Urethra
already


[Page 6]

But on the other hand if you will be clear of this being a
more certain & speedy cure for this inveterate business I
woud glady attempt them - As we have a good {illeg} here
I believe in Strachan which I experienced in his intro¬
duction of the [Cathetic?] when two others here had like
to have destroyed me by their rough attempts - I was
uncertain about the safety of using the cold bath & there¬
fore declined it this summer as you was silent on it
in your last - I have also since then declined all farther
intercourse with the Faculty here - nor have I thought
proper to communicate or show to them any part of
your last letter. I will wait with patience till I hear
from you again, observing in the mean time the regimen
of temperance in eating &ca, & altogether avoiding spiritous
liquors --


There has been a sensation also which I may mention has
within these 6 weeks been a little troublesome to me (for I
do not remember it before so particularly) it is not very



[Page 7]

alarming for I rather incline to think it proceeds
from Rheumatick affection or some other temporary
accidental cause, & not from any matter forming
It is an uneasy feeling on that side ↑(the left)↑ of the anus
where the operation was performed, especially when
I stand up, & a little stiffness in the gut when at
stool a little more than formerly I think - I feel
the bone on that side closs to the anus when I press
it with my finger so sore as makes me sometimes
think it altogether a kind of Rheumatick affection
of it at other times I think I can feel the cicatrixes
of the wounds a little sore to the touch - the chief
uneasiness I think I feel when I stand up when I
sit down its easy - I think its not at all like the
pain arising from the formation of matter - and at
this time I am now writing I think there is no other
pain when I press it such as may be always ex¬
pected from a part that has undergone such an
Operation - Yet I thought I woud mention it --


[Page 8]

In consequence of the heat of weather & to long ride I have
had I was seized with the usual fevers for ten days but
they went off without taking any thing - I do not observe
they have made any alteration on the running


On the whole {illeg} I woud begg a few more generall
directions from you relative to my present habit - & par¬
ticularly whether I shoud use the Bougies or not - & the Cold
bath - and whether the regimen I have mentioned I observe
will suffice or it shoud be still lighter - Your re¬
turning the half of the fee I sent by Mr Spence to
another circumstance - that makes me fearfull of my
having been irksome to you I have desired Mr Lindsay
to get it of him & deliver to you again which I begg
you will permit - And if there is any thing here Mrs
Cullen or you wish for that I can procure for you
Mr Lindsay will be a good hand ↑to perform↑ me by & doing so you
will much oblige me - Mr Lindsay will give you some
news here which are very exhausting & very
{illeg}



[Page 9]

can 1 in such a manner as that by conceiving their affairs
to be in no worse if not better condition than when we
as a benefit intended us were admitted Partners, & that from
a consideration of all circumstances since we came
out it hath not been in our Power to make them in
better condition -- and that the finishing of their busi¬
ness with the Assistance we will always be willling
to throw in can as well be done without us as with
us -- I say if happily they might be made to see
{illeg} case in this its true light, they might be of
use in helping us to the Justice we require - & may
be the means of doing this indeed in the way we
wish in an amicable freindly manner -- On this
footing & on it alone woud I be willing to Join
them in any new trade -- but we will not at least
its clear I cannot lose any more time - I must


[Page 10]

get into some business which we may so far be Judges of
in every instance & over which we may have always the
command & not the business of us, in a word a busi¬
ness thro which at all times we may so see thro
as to be able always to prevent loss - as well as
prosecute every favourable circumstance to the ex¬
tent of our limits --- with them I woud wish to be
concerned - and it woud be worth their while to
have our stock of experience, & thrown in -- & that
sollicitude & anxiety [for?] repairing our lost time --
which will be a sufficient {illeg} to every thing
requisite for the good conduct of a business --
But you'll attempt this with caution, & may
possibly soon see they are much the reverse, of what
I woud wish them - the sooner you see this the better
if with certainty - that aught to determine as to the


[Page 11]

whole at once - God secure you & give either a
final success with them in what we want - or such
quick discernment - as may enable you to defeat
all their {illeg} against us ---


As to myself I woud not trouble you with
any thing about health having been quite free from
the fevers I had in Petersburg after my return from
Charlotte - But having read Buchan's book of
medicine 2 wherein he treats a little on a Gleet
& I think I now understand mine to proceed from
some remaining ulcer or ulcers in the urethra
& not such a gleet as generally shows itself ↑most↑ when the patient is stimulated
with venerations or when at sto↑o↑ll - I have no such {illeg} syptoms - mine may in generall be squeezed and thick
by pressing the top of penis --
I wish you to acquaint Dr Cullen of this - the
perineum is now quite well & I believe the pain
I complained of to you in Ano arises from the wound
the stiffishnes {illeg} sensation I find is now chiefly felt when I stand up or strain making water
solely -- only I wonder at it now as I think it has
not usually been so since I was Cut -- Now I
↓do take this also over to the Dr. if he apprehends nothing from these sensations after↓
↓[observation?] of the Operation, it wil so far be a relief - & if he apprehends anything he will de¬



[Page 12]

↑rect the treatment & perhaps in time such directions as may prevent - tell him also how I suffered to↑
↑the piles, & how I seem to↑
↓be of them now↓
wish Chiefly to know of Dr Cullen of a regimen
of milk & roots woud allow me to go out about
my business & cure this running ↑this {illeg} has not agreed with it - tho I have all along↑ ↓& the heats of urine Ditto as temperate as you saw me↓ (little or no Chordee
remaining sometimes none at all & never much of it)
& what time it might take - or if I might live
as {illeg} seen me & expect a cure in time - or if
he woud advise Bougies - how even they will
effect a cure - & if I own no {illeg} {illeg}
of them becoming ↑frequently↑ necessary to me from the
present use of them -- & what other directions he
may think necessary in this - as ↑well as↑ applicable to my
whole habit ↑ & in a word say that this running &ca proves very obstinate↑ -- After conversation with you -- I
will ↑not↑ say of what consequence all this is to me - & of
the faith I have in your to effect it for me I
trust I will after have occasion to let the deed
show proof --- Tell Uncle Robert that I

[Start of margin text]
He cannot be too particular to me, its for my self I want his advice -
either hapily that it may suffice with my own management or
if unhappily I shoud have occasion to use any of the {illeg}
here again - I may be enabled to know how far to go with them in safety
this is the generall reason for wishing to have Dr. Cullen's Opinion & not an impertinent desire to
to see him & his pupils or any of the Faculty here differing an Opinion & as my
confidence {illeg}were natural for me to have {illeg} for his {illeg} [End of margin text]

Notes:

1: There may be a page missing since this text does not seem to follow-on from the last

2: Scottish physician William Buchan's Domestic Medicine first publish in 1769 was an affordable household guidebook which became very popular with over twenty editions by the close of the century.

Diplomatic Text

[Page 1]
Dear Sir
Petersburg 14 August


I recieved your letter of the 2d April, which as
every thing you ever said or wrote me did, gave me much
satisfaction, -- I am a little afraid tho from your not being
quite so full & decisive as I coud have wished, that in my
last letters I have been rather inpertinent & indiscreet - in
troubling ↑you↑ with circumstances that may be deemed indelicate
& invidious, & on the whole that you woud rather wish to
discourage so ↑in↑discreet a correspondent while at such a
distance - Yet at the same time I cannot help thinking
your humanity will forgive the man however you may blame
his manner, when you consider the state I was in when I
wrote both last times, and that any Patient is circum¬
stanced as I am to Dr Cullen must in any extremity look
up to him with uncommon confidence, & write to him on
his case more fully & with less reserve than to any other
man on earth -- But I will not trouble you any farther
with my conjectures - & impute the whole I woud seem to
complain of to my own pecularities - & the vast distance be¬



[Page 2]

tween us which makes a correspondence on such cases very trouble¬
some --- And I begg leave now to trouble you with a short ac¬
count of my present situation - and which may be very fully
supplyed by my good friend & Partner Mr John Lindsay
who will deliver you this -- He performed all the good of¬
fices of a friend to me when in ↑my↑ worst state, & was present &
assisting of all the Operations


My Rheumatick Complaints are all gone long ago, tho
I am well aware the disposition remains, I think I know well
how to gaurd against its return -- As to Veneral Complaints
the running still continues, tho I think & believe as you woud
have me that the infection is long ago gone - I believe
also had I staid at home last summer after I got over my
other complaints, avoided exercise & followed the mild
temperate regimen you prescribe I must long ere now been
fully restored - but unhappily in the then very disordered
& relaxed state of the urethra I undertook as I wrote you
a journey of 200 miles from home to bath in warm



[Page 3]

water which I had no occasion ↑for↑, & if I had coud have
been procured at home - where I got exposed to every
accident of weather & had accomodation - here I caught
the Rheumatism again - & here I was ply'd with Cinnabar
& other mercurial preparations - which only served to
make me worse - and after I got home - what more
mercury purges & infections I suffered - have ↑been↑ already
told - such fatality never attended poor Devil
It had been surely better my business had been finish'd
at first ~ But to return the running is rather
less that when I wrote you - tho the colour varies a
little now and then as you said it woud - I also
have still have so much of the sensation of a
Chordee (or stricture, are they the same?) as satisfies
me the urethra is not entirely restored - I remem¬
ber when you took me in hand at home the running
had then continued 12 Mos but without any Chordee
after the first three weeks - And the running gave
way to the regimen you laid me under & 3 months


[Page 4]

interdiction from {illeg} - this now tho seems of a much
severer obstinate kind - your state of my case is very accurate
& agreeable with my feelings, at present however I cannot
think the neck of the bladder affected, whatever it was
at my worst last winter, nor tho I had them then do I think
I have any troublesome strangureous sympon - just now
I believe I have rather a more frequent stimulus to make
a water
than if all we were well, & get free from that in¬
continency
I had {illeg} in the winter which was so great
after I began to get a little better of the strangureous
symptoms, that I used scarcely to have time to un¬
button - this now tho is not the case for I may have
perhaps more stimuli and a few other indiscribable sen¬
sations different from a sound state, I think I have the
urine at sufficient command so as that it is not ↑in that respect↑ trouble¬
some, -- a laxity tho & occasionall swelling of the urethra
with a very small degree of chordee still I think remains
For this as you direct I have left off drinking altogether


[Page 5]

except where the water is bad I mix a little wine - I
eat milk & Tea to breakfast & supper & dine tem¬
perately as fresh meats - and drink plentifully of water
or what is mild. If this practice will do I can easily
follow it up for any length of time - and as to Ve¬
nery if that was altogether necessary to abstain from
I coud do that also - for I can submit to any thing you
will positively direct - However once a week on a
average is my present allowance - I make water
tollerably well, tho there always seems yet as if some
was left in Urethra, which requires stroking out
let me make water ever so deliberately - there seems
but little heat to remain - & the stream joins
oftener than before - On the whole I am in such a
state I know not whether from what you wrote last
I shoud use the Bougies or not - If I coud do well
without to be sure I woud much rather - In there
has been too much freedom used with my Urethra
already


[Page 6]

But on the other hand if you will be clear of this being a
more certain & speedy cure for this inveterate business I
woud glady attempt them - As we have a good {illeg} here
I believe in Strachan which I experienced in his intro¬
duction of the [Cathetic?] when two others here had like
to have destroyed me by their rough attempts - I was
uncertain about the safety of using the cold bath & there¬
fore declined it this summer as you was silent on it
in your last - I have also since then declined all farther
intercourse with the Faculty here - nor have I thought
proper to communicate or show to them any part of
your last letter. I will wait with patience till I hear
from you again, observing in the mean time the regimen
of temperance in eating &ca, & altogether avoiding spiritous
liquors --


There has been a sensation also which I may mention has
within these 6 weeks been a little troublesome to me (for I
do not remember it before so particularly) it is not very



[Page 7]

alarming for I rather incline to think it proceeds
from Rheumatick affection or some other temporary
accidental cause, & not from any matter forming
It is an uneasy feeling on that side ↑(the left)↑ of the anus
where the operation was performed, especially when
I stand up, & a little stiffness in the gut when at
stool a little more than formerly I think - I feel
the bone on that side closs to the anus when I press
it with my finger so sore as makes me sometimes
think it altogether a kind of Rheumatick affection
of it at other times I think I can feel the cicatrixes
of the wounds a little sore to the touch - the chief
uneasiness I think I feel when I stand up when I
sit down its easy - I think its not at all like the
pain arising from the formation of matter - and at
this time I am now writing I think there is no other
pain when I press it such as may be always ex¬
pected from a part that has undergone such an
Operation - Yet I thought I woud mention it --


[Page 8]

In consequence of the heat of weather & to long ride I have
had I was seized with the usual fevers for ten days but
they went off without taking any thing - I do not observe
they have made any alteration on the running


On the whole {illeg} I woud begg a few more generall
directions from you relative to my present habit - & par¬
ticularly whether I shoud use the Bougies or not - & the Cold
bath - and whether the regimen I have mentioned I observe
will suffice or it shoud be still lighter - Your re¬
turning the half of the fee I sent by Mr Spence to
another circumstance - that makes me fearfull of my
having been irksome to you I have desired Mr Lindsay
to get it of him & deliver to you again wch I begg
you will permit - And if there is any thing here Mrs
Cullen or you wish for that I can procure for you
Mr Lindsay will be a good hand ↑to perform↑ me by & doing so you
will much oblige me - Mr Lindsay will give you some
news here which are very exhausting & very
{illeg}



[Page 9]

can 1 in such a manner as that by conceiving their affairs
to be in no worse if not better condition than when we
as a benefit intended us were admitted Partners, & that from
a consideration of all circumstances since we came
out it hath not been in our Power to make them in
better condition -- and that the finishing of their busi¬
ness with the Assistance we will always be willling
to throw in can as well be done without us as with
us -- I say if happily they might be made to see
{illeg} case in this its true light, they might be of
use in helping us to the Justice we require - & may
be the means of doing this indeed in the way we
wish in an amicable freindly manner -- On this
footing & on it alone woud I be willing to Join
them in any new trade -- but we will not at least
its clear I cannot lose any more time - I must


[Page 10]

get into some business which we may so far be Judges of
in every instance & over which we may have always the
command & not the business of us, in a word a busi¬
ness thro which at all times we may so see thro
as to be able always to prevent loss - as well as
prosecute every favourable circumstance to the ex¬
tent of our limits --- with them I woud wish to be
concerned - and it woud be worth their while to
have our stock of experience, & thrown in -- & that
sollicitude & anxiety [for?] repairing our lost time --
which will be a sufficient {illeg} to every thing
requisite for the good conduct of a business --
But you'll attempt this with caution, & may
possibly soon see they are much the reverse, of what
I woud wish them - the sooner you see this the better
if with certainty - that aught to determine as to the


[Page 11]

whole at once - God secure you & give either a
final success with them in what we want - or such
quick discernment - as may enable you to defeat
all their {illeg} against us ---


As to myself I woud not trouble you with
any thing about health having been quite free from
the fevers I had in Petersbg after my return from
Charlotte - But having read Buchan's book of
medicine 2 wherein he treats a little on a Gleet
& I think I now understand mine to proceed from
some remaining ulcer or ulcers in the urethra
& not such a gleet as generally shows itself ↑most↑ when the patient is stimulated
with venerations or when at sto↑o↑ll - I have no such {illeg} syptoms - mine may in generall be squeezed and thick
by pressing the top of penis --
I wish you to acquaint Dr Cullen of this - the
perineum is now quite well & I believe the pain
I complained of to you in Ano arises from the wound
the stiffishnes {illeg} sensation I find is now chiefly felt when I stand up or strain making water
solely -- only I wonder at it now as I think it has
not usually been so since I was Cut -- Now I
↓do take this also over to the Dr. if he apprehends nothing from these sensations after↓
↓[observation?] of the Operation, it wil so far be a relief - & if he apprehends anything he will de¬



[Page 12]

↑rect the treatment & perhaps in time such directions as may prevent - tell him also how I suffered to↑
↑the piles, & how I seem to↑
↓be of them now↓
wish Chiefly to know of Dr Cullen of a regimen
of milk & roots woud allow me to go out about
my business & cure this running ↑this {illeg} has not agreed wt it - tho I have all along↑ ↓& the heats of urine Ditto as temperate as you saw me↓ (little or no Chordee
remaining sometimes none at all & never much of it)
& what time it might take - or if I might live
as {illeg} seen me & expect a cure in time - or if
he woud advise Bougies - how even they will
effect a cure - & if I own no {illeg} {illeg}
of them becoming ↑frequently↑ necessary to me from the
present use of them -- & what other directions he
may think necessary in this - as ↑well as↑ applicable to my
whole habit ↑ & in a word say that this running &ca proves very obstinate↑ -- After conversation with you -- I
will ↑not↑ say of what consequence all this is to me - & of
the faith I have in your to effect it for me I
trust I will after have occasion to let the deed
show proof --- Tell Uncle Robert that I

[Start of margin text]
He cannot be too particular to me, its for my self I want his advice -
either hapily that it may suffice with my own management or
if unhappily I shoud have occasion to use any of the {illeg}
here again - I may be enabled to know how far to go with them in safety
this is the generall reason for wishing to have Dr. Cullen's Opinion & not an impertinent desire to
to see him & his pupils or any of the Faculty here differing an Opinion & as my
confidence {illeg}were natural for me to have {illeg} for his {illeg} [End of margin text]

Notes:

1: There may be a page missing since this text does not seem to follow-on from the last

2: Scottish physician William Buchan's Domestic Medicine first publish in 1769 was an affordable household guidebook which became very popular with over twenty editions by the close of the century.

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